2 year partnership track in Sheffield Alabama

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Private practice group in Northwest Alabama looking for full-time, partnership track physician.

Group covers 2 surgery centers and one hospital with 8 rooms and 2 endo suites. Cases include general surgery, urology, ENT, eyes, Ortho, GI and OB/Gyn. We don’t do hearts or heads.

2-year partnership track.

Replacing a retiring partner.

Group includes 5 anesthesiologists with 100% managing great CRNAs. Call is typically one day per week and one weekend per month. The Shoals areas is made up of four cities, Florence, Muscle Shoals, Sheffield and Tuscumbia with approximately 200,000 residents. There are two lakes in the area with lots of outdoor activities, Robert Trent Jones golf course, lots of music, great history, University of North Alabama and great public schools are available. Great place to raise a family.

Generous starting salary and 6 weeks of vacation.

We welcome established physicians or graduating residents.
 
AnesDoc0921 said:
Generous starting salary and 6 weeks of vacation.
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Sounds great. One thing is being left out which will influence people's decisions.

What is the generous starting salary?

For every graduating resident or fellow ... don't be shy about asking literally the most important question out there before giving up a ton of personal information and sending out your CVs.
 
Zekchar said:
Sounds great. One thing is being left out which will influence people's decisions.

What is the generous starting salary?

For every graduating resident or fellow ... don't be shy about asking literally the most important question out there before giving up a ton of personal information and sending out your CVs.
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I think it’s totally appropriate to discuss this 1-on-1 with applicants. Private
Practices aren’t publicly traded companies and honestly it can be problematic to disperse such information widely. Consider a given group where partners earn 80%+ MGMA but receive a large stipend from the hospital - if administration were to get word of specifics it could be very problematic.

That being said, general terms should be discussed during and interview and of course specifics discussed with job offers.
 
AdmiralChz said:
I think it’s totally appropriate to discuss this 1-on-1 with applicants. Private
Practices aren’t publicly traded companies and honestly it can be problematic to disperse such information widely. Consider a given group where partners earn 80%+ MGMA but receive a large stipend from the hospital - if administration were to get word of specifics it could be very problematic.

That being said, general terms should be discussed during and interview and of course specifics discussed with job offers.
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Well, why waste time with an interview if the salary is too low to begin with? I do agree that one should be able to PM and receive the details.
 
There’s a time and a place for compensation discussion and it isn’t over a forum. The real money is in a true private practice group that doesn’t have administrators or overhead siphoning off the top.
 
AdmiralChz said:
I think it’s totally appropriate to discuss this 1-on-1 with applicants. Private
Practices aren’t publicly traded companies and honestly it can be problematic to disperse such information widely. Consider a given group where partners earn 80%+ MGMA but receive a large stipend from the hospital - if administration were to get word of specifics it could be very problematic.

That being said, general terms should be discussed during and interview and of course specifics discussed with job offers.
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Strongly agree. The hospital, management companies, other groups, other surgeons. It’s not going to help you to discuss this publicly and has a very real chance of hurting you.
 
Agree with everyone else but am very curious as to their opinion of a “generous” salary especially with a “generous” 6 weeks off (friendly sarcasm).
 
Gaseous Clay said:
Agree with everyone else but am very curious as to their opinion of a “generous” salary especially with a “generous” 6 weeks off (friendly sarcasm).
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All is in the eye of the beholder. I suspect this group is more “generous” than typical academics where you start < 20% MGMA with < 4 weeks PDO. If not it will be a difficult sell.
 
Zekchar said:
Sounds great. One thing is being left out which will influence people's decisions.

What is the generous starting salary?

For every graduating resident or fellow ... don't be shy about asking literally the most important question out there before giving up a ton of personal information and sending out your CVs.
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0% chance this information should be placed on an open, public forum. Giving a broad range or %MGMA is appropriate after a nice long phone call, but certainly not before that. Even then, my group probably wouldnt tell you until you interviewed and we decided we liked you well enough.
If surgeons, hospital admin, crnas, preop nurses, neighbors etc found out my salary it would cause all sorts of issues. Better to let them guess something, even if they are guessing it is way higher than it is. The uncertainty is important.
 
SaltyDog said:
It’d have to be pretty F’in generous to get me to sign up for an ACT job in NW ‘Bama.
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I heard through the grapevine that the signing bonus is in the six figures.
Make what you wish with that info.
And if your advertising on SDN, another red flag..
 
pjl said:
0% chance this information should be placed on an open, public forum. Giving a broad range or %MGMA is appropriate after a nice long phone call, but certainly not before that. Even then, my group probably wouldnt tell you until you interviewed and we decided we liked you well enough.
If surgeons, hospital admin, crnas, preop nurses, neighbors etc found out my salary it would cause all sorts of issues. Better to let them guess something, even if they are guessing it is way higher than it is. The uncertainty is important.
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Sure, probably not on a public forum, but during an interview? Maybe your group is so desirable that you get good applicants regardless, but on its surface this would be a red flag if I was applying. If I've made it as far as the interview, I sure as hell would want to know what the compensation is with a good degree of specificity. An interview goes two ways, and if you're not going to be transparent about such vital decision-making information, why should I trust that you're not going to screw me over later?

I think you overestimate the degree to which candidates are leaking information out. What incentive would they have to do that? And for the sake of argument, why would those people knowing your salary cause issues? Are you vastly overpaid for the work you do?
 
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46Long said:
I heard through the grapevine that the signing bonus is in the six figures.
Make what you wish with that info.
And if your advertising on SDN, another red flag..
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At least they’re hiring.
Weren’t you just banned using another profile? Lay low or they may look up your IP address and drop the ban hammer again....
 
kaioukenx said:
Maybe your group is so desirable that you get good applicants regardless, but on its surface this would be a red flag if I was applying. If I've made it as far as the interview, I sure as hell want to know what the compensation is with a good degree of specificity. An interview goes two ways, and if you're not going to be transparent about such vital decision-making information, why should I trust that you're not going to screw me over later?

I think you overestimate the degree to which candidates are leaking information out. What incentive would they have to do that? And for the sake of argument, why would those people knowing your salary cause issues? Are you vastly overpaid for the work you do?
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IMHO if you want someone to know exactly how much money you make, you aren't making enough money.

But as to the topic, when we interview we have prelim discussion through email/phone and let people know what exact salary they would start at and then if they ask give a vague description of what current partner income is. It's not really fair to expect people to fly across country for an interview without knowing what the starting salary is. I mean it could be a giant waste of everyone's time and money.
 
46Long said:
I heard through the grapevine that the signing bonus is in the six figures.
Make what you wish with that info.
And if your advertising on SDN, another red flag..
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As opposed to gaswork, residency programs, connections, etc? I've posted jobs on here before and will continue to do so. I've probably spoken to 5-10 folks over the years and they were all solid on paper. Our last hire who just started a few months ago was found on this site. He has 10+ years of experience and has a cardiac fellowship from an Ivy league program. Guess he likes the color red?
 
AdmiralChz said:
That being said, general terms should be discussed during and interview and of course specifics discussed with job offers.
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I would want to know the salary range before flying / driving in for an in-person interview.
 
The LOCATION is why he/she is advertising on SDN. Remember the 2 out of 3 rule? At this job you get money and vacation/lifestyle but you don't get location.

If you can tolerate the location then by all means apply. For some, that will be a non starter. For others, 2/3 is more than adequate.
 
AnesDoc0921 said:
It's beautiful out here. If you have any inclination towards outdoor activity. World class fishing, deer and turkey hinting, hiking waterfalls, and land is cheap
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is this Mednax by any chance?
 
BLADEMDA said:
The LOCATION is why he/she is advertising on SDN. Remember the 2 out of 3 rule? At this job you get money and vacation/lifestyle but you don't get location.

If you can tolerate the location then by all means apply. For some, that will be a non starter. For others, 2/3 is more than adequate.
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Some jobs are 3/3, 1/3 or 0/3.
 
I have a 2/3 job....I think 3/3 is a unicorn and may not exist.
 
dchz said:
Some OB only jobs are 3/3, don't know how someone would get one of those, but they are 3/3.
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Very few docs out there can stomach this sort of job. And outside of academics (which usually has a horrendous payer mix) I’m not sure it really exists. Maybe at a free standing women and children’s hospital? There aren’t very many of them (and none in my state).
 
chocomorsel said:
Oh God. OB only is considered 3/3?
Shoot me now. Sounds absolutely horrible.
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In the right setup there are PP anesthesiologists who enjoy OB anesthesia, only do that, and do extremely well for themselves. But I doubt that happens in Sheffield, AL, as nice as the job sounds.
 
AdmiralChz said:
Very few docs out there can stomach this sort of job. And outside of academics (which usually has a horrendous payer mix) I’m not sure it really exists. Maybe at a free standing women and children’s hospital? There aren’t very many of them (and none in my state).
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They had one of these when I was in Vegas. I heard they were killing it. I was very happy for them. I almost joined just to get out of the East Coast fast.
But when they told me a 24 hour shift typically include 6 CSections and 12 and more epidurals I said No Thank you.

Literally working till you drop. Actually maybe it was 12 hours. I can’t remember. But literally one of the partners told me that they had to mop one of the new people off the floor the first day. Worked like sleigh dogs.
 
I was at a place for a year in 2004 that when you rotated on OB the epidurals paid you 800 cash and 1000 csection. I was wondering why i was only up there 5x in the 1 year I was there.
 
chocomorsel said:
Haha. The things we do for money. Those partners were killing it.
[/QUOI IS.

Buddy interviewed at a group in Texas that has a similar setup for OB still. People fight for OB call because you can make a killing per OB shift (24hr). OB even for that money doesn't appeal to me. I prefer my ICU 🙂
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