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Hey all,

Anyone know any of the details about this and how it effects us as either employed by hospital, employed by management or PP?

forgone revenue from elective surgeries is a qualified expense? how does this play in to things?
 
anes121508 said:
Hey all,

Anyone know any of the details about this and how it effects us as either employed by hospital, employed by management or PP?

forgone revenue from elective surgeries is a qualified expense? how does this play in to things?
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I have no doubt that the hospital or AMC will try to get it. They will also lower your salary or lay you off in the interim. One thing will have nothing to do with the other....
 
dannyboy1 said:
I have no doubt that the hospital or AMC will try to get it. They will also lower your salary or lay you off in the interim. One thing will have nothing to do with the other....
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Soooooooo......

Everyone is going to sweep this under the rug?

Hospitals everywhere cutting physician pay while taking money from government?
 
anes121508 said:
Soooooooo......

Everyone is going to sweep this under the rug?

Hospitals everywhere cutting physician pay while taking money from government?
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I would not cause trouble at this time. The market has turned against us quickly and dramatically. There is literally NO demand for anesthesia services. Your employer will not hesitate to send you packing (which they may do in any event).
 
I doubt any hospital is going to use money they receive from the relief package on the payroll of a PP contracted with the hospital. And the new small business loans can’t be used for payroll on employees with a salary over $100k.
My salary was cut in half, but at least I have a job...for now...
 
anes121508 said:
Soooooooo......

Everyone is going to sweep this under the rug?

Hospitals everywhere cutting physician pay while taking money from government?
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I don't know....my inbox is being flooded with requests for temporary help. Very lucrative offers!
 
To early to tell. But we have someone working on applying for the SBA loan associated with the CARE act to prevent us from having to lay off our employees. We have been asked to help cover the ICU, vent management, intubation teams etc and money from the bill will likely support such additional service.
 
yea it's a big problem. we have hundreds of covids but almost no cases. maybe 1-2 rooms a day of cases that needs to go. there is a huge decrease in demand for us. our salaries have taken a hit, about 20% decrease as of now. once this covid thing dies down we'll see what happens, but there'll be a even lower demand for us unless elective surgeries can start right away
 
anbuitachi said:
yea it's a big problem. we have hundreds of covids but almost no cases. maybe 1-2 rooms a day of cases that needs to go. there is a huge decrease in demand for us. our salaries have taken a hit, about 20% decrease as of now. once this covid thing dies down we'll see what happens, but there'll be a even lower demand for us unless elective surgeries can start right away
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Have some faith in greed. They will get those ORs open as soon as possible. They will want to run full rooms 7 days a week. Will be a great time to do locums. Unless the CRNAs are able to use this to get full independence. Unfortunately not out of the realm of possibility.
 
dannyboy1 said:
Have some faith in greed. They will get those ORs open as soon as possible. They will want to run full rooms 7 days a week. Will be a great time to do locums. Unless the CRNAs are able to use this to get full independence. Unfortunately not out of the realm of possibility.
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i have faith in hospital greed.. but it is concerning how many electives will we even be able to do when 25% of the population is unemployed. all of a sudden that cataract or nosejob can wait.
 
anbuitachi said:
i have faith in hospital greed.. but it is concerning how many electives will we even be able to do when 25% of the population is unemployed. all of a sudden that cataract or nosejob can wait.
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Forget the nosejobs. What about all these morbidly obese people who need their knees, and backs, and bypasses done but now can't afford it because they are unemployed or underemployed.
It will not be just like gliding back to normal. Good think I can work in the ICU and be underpaid but employed there. Those people don't go there electively.
There are going to be some lean times ahead for almost everyone.
 
I trashed my ankle last year and after 4 months in an aircast boot, I scheduled my surgical repair for March 18th. I cancelled it in February, once I saw Covid begin spreading. (My ortho didn't start cancelling until March.) Luckily, I still have my outrageously expensive insurance.

Once 'elective' surgeries are allowed (and safe), I will reschedule asap. Ambulation isn't elective imho.

If necessary, I'll pay out of pocket for MD supervision because there is zero way in hell that I'm letting a CRNA solo on me. Zero. I pray that there are more like me out there for your sakes; for all our sakes. I hope that orthos (among others) find a way to fill your rooms!

ENDLESS THANKS TO EACH OF YOU FOR BEING OUT THERE! Truly. 😍

*edited MD for clarification
 
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CardioDad said:
I trashed my ankle last year and after 4 months in an aircast boot, I scheduled my surgical repair for March 18th. I cancelled it in February, once I saw Covid begin spreading. (My ortho didn't start cancelling until March.) Luckily, I still have my outrageously expensive insurance.

Once 'elective' surgeries are allowed (and safe), I will reschedule asap. Ambulation isn't elective imho.

If necessary, I'll pay out of pocket for MDA supervision because there is zero way in hell that I'm letting a CRNA solo on me. Zero. I pray that there are more like me out there for your sakes; for all our sakes. I hope that orthos (among others) find a way to fill your rooms!

ENDLESS THANKS TO EACH OF YOU FOR BEING OUT THERE! Truly. 😍
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Just don't call him MDA or he'll let the CRNA loose on you once you're asleep 😉
 
dhb said:
Just don't call him MDA or he'll let the CRNA loose on you once you're asleep 😉
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😱 I should have added /s!!! Was a bad attempt at a joke and wasn't referencing Blade in particular. I've watched the MDA CRNA discussion on this forum over the past 4 years. (I heart all most of you.)

So, clarification: I would require - and pay out of pocket for - a board certified anesthesiologist to sit or supervise my ankle surgery. I will limp, never mind run or jump again, for the rest of my life before I let a CRNA solo my elective surgery.
 
CardioDad said:
😱 I should have added /s!!! Was a bad attempt at a joke and wasn't referencing Blade in particular. I've watched the MDA CRNA discussion on this forum over the past 4 years. (I heart all most of you.)

So, clarification: I would require - and pay out of pocket for - a board certified anesthesiologist to sit or supervise my ankle surgery. I will limp, never mind run or jump again, for the rest of my life before I let a CRNA solo my elective surgery.
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