Jr. Internal Medicine down!

[Stinger86]

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Just wanted to comment that two months of this interminable junior clerkship year are finally in the books, and next I'll be heading to the local children's hospital for another two. I'm so jealous of all you fourth year students and residents.... grrr, I can't wait until elective year when I can finally plan my OWN damn schedule, and do some path for freakin' once.

Wish me luck 😴

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Just wanted to comment that two months of this interminable junior clerkship year are finally in the books, and next I'll be heading to the local children's hospital for another two. I'm so jealous of all you fourth year students and residents.... grrr, I can't wait until elective year when I can finally plan my OWN damn schedule, and do some path for freakin' once.

Wish me luck 😴

Dude! Congrats for finishing your 3rd year medicine clerkship. I would have to say that that clerkship was the bottoming out point of my entire medical career. 4th year medicine subinternships were bad but not as bad as the 3rd year clerkship. As a subintern you get treated with a little more respect as your responsibilities become more patient-care oriented (as an MS3, your responsibility is to just show up before anybody else on your team, kiss as many asses as humanly possible, and leave after everyone else on your team leaves). Anyways, I think you played it smart by getting your medicine clerkship out of the way at the start of 3rd year. After medicine, everything else just isn't that bad.

 

[Stinger86]

The best thing is, the way my schedule is planned, I'll be finished with medicine, peds, and surgery by the time Christmas rolls around! I think I might cry on December 21st.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

The best thing is, the way my schedule is planned, I'll be finished with medicine, peds, and surgery by the time Christmas rolls around! I think I might cry on December 21st.

No cry. Only drink.

 

[Brian Pavlovitz]

The best thing is, the way my schedule is planned, I'll be finished with medicine, peds, and surgery by the time Christmas rolls around! I think I might cry on December 21st.

Congrats, Matt! I'm truly jealous--I just BEGIN clinical orientation on Sept.8, and I don't even know yet WHAT service I start on! Nothing like being in the dark!

 

[Stinger86]

Congrats, Matt! I'm truly jealous--I just BEGIN clinical orientation on Sept.8, and I don't even know yet WHAT service I start on! Nothing like being in the dark!

That sucks, brian. 🙁 My school has a professional degree in leaving students in the dark, but even I knew at least a month in advance where I would start! Sorry to hear that

Do you at least know how long each rotation lasts? Our med, peds, and surg rotations are all two months each, but other schools have you do them for a longer period (yuck)

 

[Brian Pavlovitz]

That sucks, brian. 🙁 My school has a professional degree in leaving students in the dark, but even I knew at least a month in advance where I would start! Sorry to hear that

Do you at least know how long each rotation lasts? Our med, peds, and surg rotations are all two months each, but other schools have you do them for a longer period (yuck)

Yeah--we have internal med. for 12 weeks I believe; I think peds and surg are 8 weeks each. Hell no matter what! 😉 I'm seriously hoping that clinicals aren't as bad as I hear. Perhaps ignorance is bliss...

I don't know. I think I'll end up being in a state of utter confusion unless I'm allowed to venture to the Pathology lab to check on a biopsy.

 

[deschutes]

I think I'll end up being in a state of utter confusion unless I'm allowed to venture to the Pathology lab to check on a biopsy.

Those patients are still eluding me. The closest I've come is this guy who is reluctant to get a renal biopsy because he feels much better compared to when he came in.

Having said that, one patient on the team is crumping fast. I saw a death certificate and autopsy consent form for the first time tonight. I asked if clinicians went to see the autopsy findings - and they said no it took the whole day and they just didn't have the time.

And with that, I have sealed my reputation as the clerk who is interested in dead people. *bangs head against wall* *bang bang bang*

[addendum:]We were sitting around as attending held court at the ward workstation, and attending was remarking that "seeing patients like this poor gentleman just makes you wonder why you're working so late, when you should be spending more time at home."

And inside I was thinking... Buddy, I'm glad I learnt that in half the time that it took you. 🙄

With all due respect to him and his floor medicine colleagues, naturally.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Yeah--we have internal med. for 12 weeks I believe; I think peds and surg are 8 weeks each. Hell no matter what! 😉 I'm seriously hoping that clinicals aren't as bad as I hear. Perhaps ignorance is bliss...

I don't know. I think I'll end up being in a state of utter confusion unless I'm allowed to venture to the Pathology lab to check on a biopsy.

At Michigan, we did 3 months of internal medicine, 3 months of surgery, 6 weeks of peds, 6 weeks of ob/gyn, and everything else doesn't matter. No electives 3rd year...it's quite a shame.

 

[yaah]

At Michigan, we did 3 months of internal medicine, 3 months of surgery, 6 weeks of peds, 6 weeks of ob/gyn, and everything else doesn't matter. No electives 3rd year...it's quite a shame.

Just like my schedule. 12 weeks of surg which was split into half general/vascular and half subspecialty (Two of my three were the only subspecialties without any call responsibilities, thank you very much). 12 weeks of IM of which 8 was inpatient and 4 outpatient. 6 weeks of family, pedes, OB, psych. No electives and I think 2 weeks vacation.

Stinger, as I have said, it does build some confidence (not only in your abilities but also your desire to do path) to have all of 3rd year.

 

[deschutes]

...it does build some confidence (not only in your abilities but also your desire to do path) to have all of 3rd year.

Oh yeah. Quite the character-building experience.

In my 3rd/final "year" (54 weeks) I do 10 weeks' electives (most schedules have 6 weeks up front, which is strange unless you're doing something like Rad/Path), 12 weeks' IM, 8 weeks surg, 6 weeks psych/peds/ob, 4 weeks family, 2 weeks anaes. And 2 weeks' vacation Dec/Jan.

I'm allowed 8 days off per rotation for interviews. Haven't quite figured out the logistics of that yet, since Path doesn't interview on weekends.

 

[Stinger86]

Stinger, as I have said, it does build some confidence (not only in your abilities but also your desire to do path) to have all of 3rd year.

I think of third year more like penance for all the sins I've accrued in my life

 

[b&ierstiefel]

I think of third year more like penance for all the sins I've accrued in my life

I thought God loved me like he loves all souls on this earth...until M3 year...as Cartman says in the Starvin Marvin episode, "Eh! My God has forsaken me."

 

[deschutes]

I think of third year more like penance for all the sins I've accrued in my life

I had not thought of it that way before. But you are right. It is rather purgatory.

Indeed, one finds God in med school.