Podiatry Cover up

[flypod]

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I gotta wonder if there is some kind of cover up here. Any time someone asks a penetrating question about podiatry, they get crucified and banned or someone will tell them to accept it or become a MD/DO/DDS. I dont get it.

Its as if none of the less than positive aspects of podiatry want to be discussed. If one is going to make a life long career of this field, I believe every aspect should be explored.

Wouldnt you all agree?

Okay, thats the end of my thoughts.

 

[phpodguy]

I agree with you that people should be aware of both the positive and negative aspects of podiatry.

The problem is that you're hinting at a "conspiracy" that's not there. There are no podiatry bogeymen hiding in the SDN shadows trying to lure innocent students into indentured servitude with false lies and propaganda.

Most people here are just students or prospective students asking for supplemental information about this field or answering questions based on their personal experiences; this is a voluntary choice on their part. Likewise, your choice to come to these threads to read or ask questions is voluntary as well. The SDN podiatry forums should by no means be the ultimate source for information about the field. That's why school tours, shadowing experienced podiatrists, and individual research on the field are important determinants in making a decision with such gravitas. It would be a truly unwise decision to make any life-altering decisions based on information you find in an internet forum. Have you ever done a research paper and been cautioned not to use internet sources because the information might be spurious? Using SDN or any other internet forum as your sole source of information is like that.

I would like to say that you are more than welcome to ask questions about negative aspects of the profession, but maybe you should ask an experienced podiatrist (or two, or three, or eighty) in person if you have concerns about the profession. This way you can get both positive and negative feedback that's not anonymous and from a more trustworthy source.

Since this board is brimming with people with positive experiences about podiatry, it would be logical to deduce that the answers to these threads are going to be positive. They are under no obligation to spout out every negative aspect of the profession or focus on atypical, rare, or aberrant cases about any random podiatrist's experience. They certainly have nothing to gain by extolling any virtues and downplaying any pitfalls of podiatry. If anything, you would think that they would be more negative just to lessen any future competition.

Why you keep trying to beat the same dead horse is beyond me. If you truly are interested and concerned with the profession, maybe you should try finding other options that address your concerns rather than asking the same questions looking for different answers.

 

[Podman]

I gotta wonder if there is some kind of cover up here. Any time someone asks a penetrating question about podiatry, they get crucified and banned or someone will tell them to accept it or become a MD/DO/DDS. I dont get it.

Its as if none of the less than positive aspects of podiatry want to be discussed. If one is going to make a life long career of this field, I believe every aspect should be explored.

Wouldnt you all agree?

Okay, thats the end of my thoughts.

YES! it is a conspiracy theory to srew over bright minds like your flypod just to "sign aboard"...

Look, no one is against posting legitimate information but when people post old uncredible information, then we have every right to refute it. You made it seem on more than a few occasions that you "know more than enough about this profession" and yet you continue to display the ignorance of your knowledge by some ridiculous posts - many of which are very uncredited. No one is asking you to stop posting - but if you have legitimate questions then ask - if you don't have any then there's no point of this even more ridiculous topic that you're introducing - "cover up?"...why would I want to cover anything - this is my profession and I'm proud of it. I tell people to research the profession and shadow podiatrists. The information is available for all to search - this is the beauty of our country, it is a free country! If you are merely upset because you get refuted by your posts then perhaps the problem is in your mannerism - maybe you should go back and see your posts before typing the first random thought to mind. You are old enough to do your homework like everyone else should, so do it!

 

[funfeet]

I gotta wonder if there is some kind of cover up here. Any time someone asks a penetrating question about podiatry, they get crucified and banned or someone will tell them to accept it or become a MD/DO/DDS. I dont get it.

Its as if none of the less than positive aspects of podiatry want to be discussed. If one is going to make a life long career of this field, I believe every aspect should be explored.

Wouldnt you all agree?

Okay, thats the end of my thoughts.

Flypod, I personally dont think there is anything wrong with your posts. But like someone said, maybe ask a well-expereinced podiatrist. Majority of the members here are still in school or like me, applying to school. You ask them about the negative aspects, and right now they love it and you criticize them for it. If you are looking for the negative aspects, look to someone who has been in longer. And look for a post by Coolvkb awhile back, he found a thread on another site that talked alot about why they dont like it and such. Maybe look there for your negative answers.
Also, are you applying to podiatry school this year or thinking about next year? Hope you make the right decision for you and good luck.

 

[jesse14]

Flypod,

Here's a link that clearly shows the "bad side" of Podiatry:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/23927/page-105

It's scarry at times when new stutdents read info like that! Believe me, as a future chiropractic student, i've read my fair share!

Take care

 

[Podman]

Flypod,

Here's a link that clearly shows the "bad side" of Podiatry:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/23927/page-105

It's scarry at times when new stutdents read info like that! Believe me, as a future chiropractic student, i've read my fair share!

Take care

so a bunch of failing, disgruntled podiatrists represent the "bad" side of podiatry? Intresting. I love how people who fail blame everything around them including the profession, and everyone around them EXCEPT themselves.

Thanks for your input, but I am well familiar with that forum since I was a pre-pod, but I chose to learn from those who succeeded in my profession not those who failed

 

[cool_vkb]

i feel u shud be kicked out of this forum in a minute. The thing is not bcoz u ask negative questions. the thing is u know what u r asking. that irritates me. Last time u asked do pods do full body evaluation? and in that post u were only later explaining us why v shudnt be doing full body evaluations bcoz v r not Mds or some crap. Another post u asked a stupid question titled "DPM NOT ALLOWED TO TESTIFY" u idiot u manipulated the Title of the article and presented it to people as if all DPMs are not allowed to testify at all. where as the article never said anything abt that. U just want us to get scared and irritated. So i see no point in ur questions. They are not meant for ur inquiry,u just ask them for ur fun and entertainment. U r a sick mind with serious problems. if u consider urself a normal human being then think wat iam saying. ask a question which u dont know and see how many good responses u get. Ur problem is u ask a quetsion u already know the answer and u just ask it so tat u can later show how wrong v r and how right u r.

Remember one thing, this is not ur cheap neighborhood bar where u cud go and blabber wat ever u want. its a professional forum. We dont insult each other's professions. U act as if u r some god and v r some bunch of illitrates who dont anything we are doing. We are having ideals like DPMGrad or jonwill who are succesfully practicing podiatry. they are the positive side of profession. i personally take my inspiration from dpmgrad. he is practicing sucessfully doing all the things which i read a pod can do in his scope of practice.

U better get the hell out of here or change ur attitude. in simple words u r a "LOSER" who failed everywhere in his life and is looking to take out anger in this forum. there are so many other good ways to take out anger. do some research on that . get out from here.

And plzz dont start again "YOU DONT KNOW ABT ME?" crap. i even doubt u even drove a bycyle forget abt planes.

 

[Podman]

i feel u shud be kicked out of this forum in a minute. The thing is not bcoz u ask negative questions. the thing is u know what u r asking. that irritates me. Last time u asked do pods do full body evaluation? and in that post u were only later explaining us why v shudnt be doing full body evaluations bcoz v r not Mds or some crap. Another post u asked a stupid question titled "DPM NOT ALLOWED TO TESTIFY" u idiot u manipulated the Title of the article and presented it to people as if all DPMs are not allowed to testify at all. where as the article never said anything abt that. U just want us to get scared and irritated. So i see no point in ur questions. They are not meant for ur inquiry,u just ask them for ur fun and entertainment. U r a sick mind with serious problems. if u consider urself a normal human being then think wat iam saying. ask a question which u dont know and see how many good responses u get. Ur problem is u ask a quetsion u already know the answer and u just ask it so tat u can later show how wrong v r and how right u r.

Remember one thing, this is not ur cheap neighborhood bar where u cud go and blabber wat ever u want. its a professional forum. We dont insult each other's professions. U act as if u r some god and v r some bunch of illitrates who dont anything we are doing. We are having ideals like DPMGrad or jonwill who are succesfully practicing podiatry. they are the positive side of profession. i personally take my inspiration from dpmgrad. he is practicing sucessfully doing all the things which i read a pod can do in his scope of practice.

U better get the hell out of here or change ur attitude. in simple words u r a "LOSER" who failed everywhere in his life and is looking to take out anger in this forum. there are so many other good ways to take out anger. do some research on that . get out from here.

And plzz dont start again "YOU DONT KNOW ABT ME?" crap. i even doubt u even drove a bycyle forget abt planes.

Cool, you are entitled to respond to posts but as you said earlier "this is a professional forum", so please keep it professional and refrain from personal attacks.

Thanks

 

[cool_vkb]

Cool, you are entitled to respond to posts but as you said earlier "this is a professional forum", so please keep it professional and refrain from personal attacks.

Thanks

Ofcourse this is a professional forum but unfortunately when unprofessional people are not being banned and allowed to go on doing their nonsense, i dont mind being some unprofessional.

Common this guy is going on left-right irritating. why cant somebody ban him or say something to him.

 

[Podman]

Ofcourse this is a professional forum but unfortunately when unprofessional people are not being banned and allowed to go on doing their nonsense, i dont mind being some unprofessional.

Common this guy is going on left-right irritating. why cant somebody ban him or say something to him.

His posts or mannerism maybe in question but I don't recall him resorting to personal attacks. If you are offended by his posts, there is always a "report post" button by the left column.

You are going to be a professional in the near future, and this is a forum to exchange ideas and thoughts with professionals and future professionals - for that i ask you to please keep the conduct upto par.

Regards,

podman

 

[jonwill]

I gotta wonder if there is some kind of cover up here. Any time someone asks a penetrating question about podiatry, they get crucified and banned or someone will tell them to accept it or become a MD/DO/DDS. I dont get it.

Its as if none of the less than positive aspects of podiatry want to be discussed. If one is going to make a life long career of this field, I believe every aspect should be explored.

Wouldnt you all agree?

Okay, thats the end of my thoughts.

Podiatric Medicine has nothing to hide. You need look no further than the thousands upon thousands of successful pods out there to see that is true. If you look hard enough, you will find negative aspects of every profession out there and podiatry is no exception. Search SDN and you will find my opinion on the problems with the profession. But overall, it is an awesome specialty in medicine. The majority of those that go into podiatry to very well.

Network 54 consists of half a dozen disgruntled pods that post over and over. But then again, if you believe everything that you read on that forum (or this forum for that matter), you are probably not smart enough to get through podiatry school anyway!

So I guess the question is, "Who do you believe", thousands of successful podiatrists, or a few disgruntled ones?

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

I also love the disclaimer at the bottom that focuses on how negative the forum is.

Fly, why I think you get crap is b/c you can't believe the positive posts you see. You commonly ask a ? and then tell the poster that their answer is wrong. That is annoying. I would love to discuss the future of podiatry as I see if you'd like. There are lots of negatives and we discuss them frequently but many of the negative that we know relate to school b/c we are in school not in practice.

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

Fly,

FYI you should look into Resolution. Gusty has informed me of the new APMA resolution which is taking the same steps the DOs did a few years back to become integrates w/ MDs. Those steps are being taken and 2015 is the goal date set for the changes to take place. According to the resolution by 2015, pod schools will become more universal, pods can/will sit for USMLE, and there will no longer be a limited scope. Again, just an FYI.

 

[molldoll2010dpm]

Flypod,

There is a big difference between sharing ideas whether they are good or bad, and just being plain negative. I don't understand why you consistently push the limit. It's not that no one talks about the negative sides or the realities, but you just are way off on everything you talk about. You aren't a Podiatry student, and unless you are a disgruntled Podiatrist most of your posts are thing you should worry about when you are actually into a program. If you get into a program, you will have to watch your mouth because if you offend Professors they will have absolutely no problem kicking you out of the school. If you are seriously interested in Podiatry, do your class work, get god grades, get into a program, and then try and make changes instead of just complaining. If you aren't comfortable having a limited scope of practice either get over it or find a new career.

 

[flypod]

Ofcourse this is a professional forum but unfortunately when unprofessional people are not being banned and allowed to go on doing their nonsense, i dont mind being some unprofessional.

Common this guy is going on left-right irritating. why cant somebody ban him or say something to him.

Exactly my point. Anyone who asks a question or has a comment that isnt smiley and happy towards podiatry, they get banned.

I dont think it reflects podiatry as a whole and is unfair to people or potential students looking into the profession.

 

[Podman]

Exactly my point. Anyone who asks a question or has a comment that isnt smiley and happy towards podiatry, they get banned.

I dont think it reflects podiatry as a whole and is unfair to people or potential students looking into the profession.

trolls and people who resort to personal attacks get banned - No one banned you so you can relax.

 

[cool_vkb]

Exactly my point. Anyone who asks a question or has a comment that isnt smiley and happy towards podiatry, they get banned.

I dont think it reflects podiatry as a whole and is unfair to people or potential students looking into the profession.

And exactly thats wat my point is. u never ask a question. u never ask a question. u never ask a question. u never ask a question.

U do sarcasm. u ask question just to start a debate and actively participate in that debate answering ur own questions. Tats crazy man!

If u honestly ask a question , a question tat is bad. but if ur question is honest and u r honest. that is u r just asking for ur own curosity bcoz u dont know the answer. its perfectly fine- u can ask more questions. but u dont ask questions like that. u ask and u reply to ur own questions.u just irritate people. u try to scare new pre-pod students. So why exactly do u even ask a question when u know tha answer. and u outrightly reject anyone's explanation. what do u get by this twisted posts.

And one more thing; plzz accept my sincere applogies for using ignorant language against u in the last post. iam really sorry for that.

 

[jonwill]

Exactly my point. Anyone who asks a question or has a comment that isnt smiley and happy towards podiatry, they get banned.

I dont think it reflects podiatry as a whole and is unfair to people or potential students looking into the profession.

Anyone who asks a question or has a comment that isn't smiley and happy towards any medical specialty on SDN usually runs into trouble. I honestly have to say that most of your "questions" are way off base. You won't believe the thousands of positive and constructive answers that you receive and yet, you will believe the 4 disgruntled podiatrists somewhere in the world that post on some less than reputable forum. I'd say that's going out of your way to be negative!

And as with all of my posts, I don't expect you to answer it because it makes far too much sense

 

[krabmas]

Fly,

FYI you should look into Resolution. Gusty has informed me of the new APMA resolution which is taking the same steps the DOs did a few years back to become integrates w/ MDs. Those steps are being taken and 2015 is the goal date set for the changes to take place. According to the resolution by 2015, pod schools will become more universal, pods can/will sit for USMLE, and there will no longer be a limited scope. Again, just an FYI.

How does Gusty know this?

I heard that they were looking into sitting for the USMLE and such but nothing was exactly established yet.

 

[krabmas]

And exactly thats wat my point is. u never ask a question. u never ask a question. u never ask a question. u never ask a question.

U do sarcasm. u ask question just to start a debate and actively participate in that debate answering ur own questions. Tats crazy man!

If u honestly ask a question , a question tat is bad. but if ur question is honest and u r honest. that is u r just asking for ur own curosity bcoz u dont know the answer. its perfectly fine- u can ask more questions. but u dont ask questions like that. u ask and u reply to ur own questions.u just irritate people. u try to scare new pre-pod students. So why exactly do u even ask a question when u know tha answer. and u outrightly reject anyone's explanation. what do u get by this twisted posts.

And one more thing; plzz accept my sincere applogies for using ignorant language against u in the last post. iam really sorry for that.

please try not to rant.

you've been told to keep it professional. please try harder.

gather your thoughts before you type like mad. maybe take a few breaths.

even if you are not directly being mean - the posts come across that way. It does not look good for the profession who just accepted you if you post things like this.

 

[tea_tu]

What profession doesn't have its ups and downs?😕

 

[whiskers]

I gotta wonder if there is some kind of cover up here. Any time someone asks a penetrating question about podiatry, they get crucified and banned or someone will tell them to accept it or become a MD/DO/DDS. I dont get it.

Its as if none of the less than positive aspects of podiatry want to be discussed. If one is going to make a life long career of this field, I believe every aspect should be explored.

Wouldnt you all agree?

Okay, thats the end of my thoughts.

Lol, you should see how it gets if you don't tow the line once you're in the profession!

In my opinion, if you are looking for a profession that is introspective, look elsewhere. From my observations, there are two forms of podiatrists, groomed leaders and their timid followers. If you are in the second camp, get ready to tow the line.

"Outcasts," who typically have a different global view, seem to be labeled as utter failures and are not well received etc etc.

 

[jonwill]

Lol, you should see how it gets if you don't tow the line once you're in the profession!

In my opinion, if you are looking for a profession that is introspective, look elsewhere. From my observations, there are two forms of podiatrists, groomed leaders and their timid followers. If you are in the second camp, get ready to tow the line.

"Outcasts," who typically have a different global view, seem to be labeled as utter failures and are not well received etc etc.

It is only too obvious that not everybody shares your bleek outlook on podiatric medicine.

 

[lillytwig]

Lol, you should see how it gets if you don't tow the line once you're in the profession!

In my opinion, if you are looking for a profession that is introspective, look elsewhere. From my observations, there are two forms of podiatrists, groomed leaders and their timid followers. If you are in the second camp, get ready to tow the line.

"Outcasts," who typically have a different global view, seem to be labeled as utter failures and are not well received etc etc.

perhaps this outcast labeling doesn't come from your global view, rather your medivial comparisions and VERY abstract comments. abstract is good, as is fresh thinking, but you sometimes cross the line and enter into wierdness; kind of like the difference between a scientist and a sci-fi nerd.
as for your disgruntledness, i am sorry your corpora cavernosa is inadequte, and thus you feel as though you will fail, but im tellin ya, an attitude adjustment would do wonders!!! try it!!!

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

Lol, you should see how it gets if you don't tow the line once you're in the profession!

In my opinion, if you are looking for a profession that is introspective, look elsewhere. From my observations, there are two forms of podiatrists, groomed leaders and their timid followers. If you are in the second camp, get ready to tow the line.

"Outcasts," who typically have a different global view, seem to be labeled as utter failures and are not well received etc etc.

I love Outkast. That song Ms Jackson is hot.

Whiskers you must have escaped the padded room; I hope the meds kick in soon.

 

[AlKlineDPM]

so a bunch of failing, disgruntled podiatrists represent the "bad" side of podiatry? Intresting. I love how people who fail blame everything around them including the profession, and everyone around them EXCEPT themselves.

Thanks for your input, but I am well familiar with that forum since I was a pre-pod, but I chose to learn from those who succeeded in my profession not those who failed

I agree, Podman, Network 54 has a lot of 'trash-talk' of a bunch of disgruntled, failing podiatrists. I'm not sure how they find that forum. I think those folks are the very minority in our field. Show me a field of medicine where everyone wins?

 

[SAFOOT]

Fly,

FYI you should look into Resolution. Gusty has informed me of the new APMA resolution which is taking the same steps the DOs did a few years back to become integrates w/ MDs. Those steps are being taken and 2015 is the goal date set for the changes to take place. According to the resolution by 2015, pod schools will become more universal, pods can/will sit for USMLE, and there will no longer be a limited scope. Again, just an FYI.

Wow you do you have more information on this. Could you elaborate a little more. Does it mean that those already done with school before 2015 and practicing also no longer have limited scope? Will the degree get modified or make changes that will affect already practicing pods? Thanks

SAFOOT

 

[AlKlineDPM]

This is good news, you need to read my recent post on my thoughts on the MD/DPM perspective.

Al Kline DPM
THE FOOT BLOG

 

[aphistis]

Fly,

FYI you should look into Resolution. Gusty has informed me of the new APMA resolution which is taking the same steps the DOs did a few years back to become integrates w/ MDs. Those steps are being taken and 2015 is the goal date set for the changes to take place. According to the resolution by 2015, pod schools will become more universal, pods can/will sit for USMLE, and there will no longer be a limited scope. Again, just an FYI.

I've heard people talk about this before. Is it something the profession is making tangible progress toward, or is it an idealistic pipe dream?

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

I've heard people talk about this before. Is it something the profession is making tangible progress toward, or is it an idealistic pipe dream?

A little of both. The main issues I see standing in the way are 1) Pod schools have operated as an autonomous unit for almost 100 years. Deans will not like losing their ability to set curriculum. Heck, there is little uniform curriculum now. 2) The APMA will also loss strength, therefore why would they push to make this happen.

I think that the merge is inevitable. Rogue education programs benefit no one. I am proud to be a pod student and would have it no other way BUT I think that many students lack a strong medical base adding to misconceptions and mistrust some doctors have for pods. This would address that issue. Of course, there are idiots in all programs MD, DO, DPM, and I don't want to sound like most pods are dumb. I do think that the schools need tighter regulations to protect the future of podiatry and our patients.

To make a long story short, it is real but there are a lot pieces that must fall into place to make it reality.

 

[whiskers]

perhaps this outcast labeling doesn't come from your global view, rather your medivial comparisions and VERY abstract comments. abstract is good, as is fresh thinking, but you sometimes cross the line and enter into wierdness; kind of like the difference between a scientist and a sci-fi nerd.
as for your disgruntledness, i am sorry your corpora cavernosa is inadequte, and thus you feel as though you will fail, but im tellin ya, an attitude adjustment would do wonders!!! try it!!!

Thank-you for inquiring about my corpora cavernosa, it is doing well! The stretching exercises and the unna boot paste have dramatically enhanced it's reliability regarding performance. But one has to wonder, is that within your scope of practice?

I now have a different perspecitive on life, love and the pursuit of podiatric education, the kind you can only get from watching... old western movies.

Above all, I have seemingly made a new friend.

Kind regards,

 

[AlKlineDPM]

A little of both. The main issues I see standing in the way are 1) Pod schools have operated as an autonomous unit for almost 100 years. Deans will not like losing their ability to set curriculum. Heck, there is little uniform curriculum now. 2) The APMA will also loss strength, therefore why would they push to make this happen.

I think that the merge is inevitable. Rogue education programs benefit no one. I am proud to be a pod student and would have it no other way BUT I think that many students lack a strong medical base adding to misconceptions and mistrust some doctors have for pods. This would address that issue. Of course, there are idiots in all programs MD, DO, DPM, and I don't want to sound like most pods are dumb. I do think that the schools need tighter regulations to protect the future of podiatry and our patients.

To make a long story short, it is real but there are a lot pieces that must fall into place to make it reality.

We have to look out for our own profession. In our community, we have about 15 pods, and 2 or 3 of them are pure quacks. How did it get this way? I believe a lack in uniformity, lack in proper training. And more importantly, a lack in knowing how to run a business. They get themselves over their financial heads, and then resort to poor business practices to try and make some quick money. It's no wonder, considering podiatry schools put their students over a 100K in debt by the time they hit residency. I've always wondered why podiatrist don't get a class in financial management?
See my post on Podiatry Tips for the New Practitioner.

 

[lillytwig]

Thank-you for inquiring about my corpora cavernosa, it is doing well! The stretching exercises and the unna boot paste have dramatically enhanced it's reliability regarding performance. But one has to wonder, is that within your scope of practice?

I now have a different perspecitive on life, love and the pursuit of podiatric education, the kind you can only get from watching... old western movies.

Above all, I have seemingly made a new friend.

Kind regards,