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Yes, as long as the length of residency is the same. I believe that FM is one of the odd ones that requires further investigation.
 
Does this advice still stand? A U.S. medical student completes residency in Canada and is free to practice in either country?
 
I looked into this, and what I discovered is that you end up doing one extra year (total of 5 years including intern year), and then you have to take both sets of exams (Royal College and the ABPN exam in the US). If you do a little hunting you can find info on this ("ABPN reciprocity neurology and psychiatry". The reciprocity agreement has been going for a while now, so I would expect it to stay in place. Then you have unrestricted ability to practice in the US. I ended up not choosing that option b/c the school I was looking into (McGill primarily) currently does not participate in the US match (they used to have one US spot so you could rank them like usual) -- but now you have to pull out of the match, and that didn't seem like a great option for me. But some really great training in Canada! Plus you would get to experience a healthcare system that isn't so busted : ) The program was super receptive when I called them. Definitely look into it if you think it would be a good fit.

PM me if you think I can offer more or help.

Thanks.
 
I'm confused about having to pull out of the match with McGill. What does that mean? You're saying if I apply to McGill as a U.S. Grad, I cannot apply to any other U.S. programs?

But all other canadian residencies, don't have this rule?
 
So you just can't rank a Canadian school in the US match unless they have paid to participate (I think). McGill used to always take one American, but ended not doing that anymore b/c I think reserving that spot and participating in the US match for just one student was either too expensive or too much of a hassle.

I suppose this is only really relevant if you are an American at a US med school. For example, if I was like "My #1 program is "XX US school" and number 2 school is "XX Canadian school" I couldn't just order them as such and then wait for the Match to see. I could, of course, just apply directly to XX Canadian school and potentially secure a spot outside of the match. Does that make sense? The timing of it was a little off, can't remember exactly, but I would have had to choose one or the other (i.e. Canadian school vs. see what happens in the US match).

I don't totally understand how it all works, but it seemed that Canadian schools can pay some sort of sum of money to be able to "enter the US match" -- i.e. they can be listed on the US Match list and go through the whole process. I think probably each Canadian school is different in how they view US grads, I'd just email programs and ask. Moral is that it seems you have to do one extra year to do neurology in Canada, probably have to sit through two sets of certifying exams, but in the end you can practice in either place. Make sense? When asking around high quality US programs, I got amazing responses when asking them what they thought of McGill -- so definitely has the reputation. Can't tell you much about the other Canadian schools specifically.

Sorry if the previous post confused you. Good luck!!
 
Thanks that helped clarify the issue.

Hypothetically, if the U.S. Match results were given before the Canadian match, then you wouldn't have to pick one over the other. But since the Canadian match results occur before the U.S. Match results, you have to decide on whether or not you will accept before you know where you matched in the U.S. ?

But you can still apply to both separately. What would be the downside of applying to both, just the amount of work for the extra applications and the possibility of placing yourself in a position of making a very difficult decision.

Regardless, the extra year of training is not exactly desirable... Would have to really really really fall in love with a program to justify it.
 
I was always under the impression that you had to be a Canadian permanent resident or citizen to participate in the Canadian match. And the Canadian match (CARMS) is definitely coordinated with ERAS. In other words, if you match into a Canadian program, you will be automatically withdrawn from US match within hours literally (no questions asked!!).

That said, while the Canadian neurology residency is one year longer, they do get paid more than their US counterparts.
 
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