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Can anyone help me out with navigating the CASPR directory?

What is the difference between a
PM&S - 36
PMSR/RRA
or Just PMSR

Only programs that have RRA are certified in rearfoot surgery?

How does a PM&S-36 differ from PMSR?


There are also a lot of residencies that have an "I" for incomplete regarding their status. Are these new programs that are just opening up?


Minimal rank: Is that gpa or clinical ranking?

Sorry for all the naive questions.
 
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I'm also a 3rd year so not sure if I have this right, but I believe PM&S-36 are programs that have been 3 years all along. PMSR with RRA were 2 year programs that were converted over to 3 years and also allow you to become board certified in RRA and not just foot. PMSR does NOT allow you to sit for the RRA boards. You'll still be trained in those procedures in residency but just can't be board certified in RRA. I'm not sure about the incomplete statuses. I don't remember which specific programs, but I remember looking at the clerkship handbook and seeing programs with clerkships that still say "incomplete" for their residency programs...so that really makes no sense to me. I don't know what a clinical ranking is, but I was under the assumption that your class rank is based on your GPA from your classes.
 
Yeah, I should have looked at the list before I replied. The more I go through, the more I'm convinced a majority of those programs are simply in the process of CPME visits or finalizing the change to PMSR...my bad.

But I know there ARE programs on there that no longer exist. Just not as many as I originally assumed.
 
arez10 said:
I'm also a 3rd year so not sure if I have this right, but I believe PM&S-36 are programs that have been 3 years all along. PMSR with RRA were 2 year programs that were converted over to 3 years and also allow you to become board certified in RRA and not just foot. PMSR does NOT allow you to sit for the RRA boards. You'll still be trained in those procedures in residency but just can't be board certified in RRA. I'm not sure about the incomplete statuses. I don't remember which specific programs, but I remember looking at the clerkship handbook and seeing programs with clerkships that still say "incomplete" for their residency programs...so that really makes no sense to me. I don't know what a clinical ranking is, but I was under the assumption that your class rank is based on your GPA from your classes.
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I think you're mostly right, except for the bolded portion. PMSR with RRA just means they have already made the transition over to the new credential. So it could have been a 3 year program (PM&S-36) that already transitioned over, not necessarily a 2 year program that converted. I think the majority of programs that went from 2 year programs to 3 with the new format still will not allow rearfoot credentialing. Just an observation on that though.

As far as programs listed as incomplete, it just means their application is incomplete, not necessarily that they no longer exist. It is odd that so many programs are listed as incomplete. Some might be due to the transition to PMSR, and some is probably just due to procrastination on the part of the programs.
 
Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm sure I will have more questions as the process goes on.

The CASPR/CRIP is rarely talked about on here and I really do not know a lot about the whole process yet. Maybe we can continue a thread with tips and advice/how the whole process works?
 
Ankle Breaker said:
Is anyone having problems uploading their picture, CV, transcripts, and other document possible to the digital uniform clerkship application? I understand this will streamline the clerkship application process but there are def some kinks with the new program that I'm concerned about.
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You are far ahead of me!
 
I currently have about 10 programs that I am interested in applying to for clerkships. Is that a good number, or should I apply to more? What is the norm?

I'm pretty much clueless on what I am about to partake in.
 
How many months are you going to have before CRIPS that you get to apply for?

And don't worry about knowing anything now. Deadline isn't until Nov. and wether you fill it out now or the night before it closes it won't change a thing.
 
I was reading about a clerkship/residency program that said they are a PM&S 36 that is converting to a PMSR in August 2012. According to posts above they are no longer rear foot certified? Why would they downgrade?
 
Dtrack,

Edit: 5 clerkships before match
 
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dyk343 said:
Dtrack,

Edit: 5 clerkships before match
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I realized after I asked the question that I wouldn't have a great answer with the new application process. If anyone has had a meeting with their clinical affairs director already feel free to chime in.

I don't know how the application process is going to work if you select two programs for the same month. In the past you could apply to multiple programs in the same month and just select or deny the program that got back to you first. With the new set up, I don't know if this will still be the case. The system may respond differently if you do, it may not.

If it is the same then 10 programs is probably more than you'd want to apply to. Seems most students, if they even have "back up" programs that they apply to right off the bat, only pick a couple programs more than the # of months. Other students don't apply to any backups and then start calling/applying to programs if they get rejected or can't work one of their initial programs into their schedule.

So you have 5 programs. Some students will apply to 5. Some will apply to 7 or 8. Depends on personal preference or what has worked for students at your school in the past. Also depends on if you are comfortable stringing programs along as you wait to hear from your top choice in some cases. Or if you're ok with telling a program "no, I don't want to go there anymore". Hopefully you have some 4th years you can contact and pick their brains, it would probably be a lot more helpful than my rambling...
 
dyk343 said:
I was reading about a clerkship/residency program that said they are a PM&S 36 that is converting to a PMSR in August 2012. According to posts above they are no longer rear foot certified? Why would they downgrade?
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Guessing they didn't have the cases/curriculum to get the RRA cert. I would always contact the program directly to confirm before I made a decision though. Depending on where it was published, and by whom, the "cert" could have just been mistakenly left off. Not saying that's the case with this program, but I'd hate to leave off a program because I got some bad info...
 
dtrack22 said:
Guessing they didn't have the cases/curriculum to get the RRA cert. I would always contact the program directly to confirm before I made a decision though. Depending on where it was published, and by whom, the "cert" could have just been mistakenly left off. Not saying that's the case with this program, but I'd hate to leave off a program because I got some bad info...
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I'm not really interested in this program but here is the link.

http://www.casprcrip.org/html/casprcrip/pdf/Dir_Pgs/0242.pdf
 
I would be surprised if it was not going to offer the additional RRA certification. My guess is that they just typed PMSR to show that they are transitioning over, not necessarily to say they aren't going to offer the RRA. But again, just a guess.
 
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