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Congrats on your acceptance to the Pharmacy program.
Let the fun begin!!!
Let the fun begin!!!
DPM, PharmD, MD, Help my with me career planning!
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My cousins and I were talking about health careers, and they just told me that pharmacy was **** (they don't know that I got in).
More like let the stigma and bashing begin.....😡
Indian society and culture still don't respect pharmacy, let alone podiatry. They only acknowledge MD and DO; they didn't even like DO until now (This reflects my family anyway.).
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Let the misery and stereotyping begin. (As you can tell, I have low self esteem).... 🙁
More like let the stigma and bashing begin.....😡
Indian society and culture still don't respect pharmacy, let alone podiatry. They only acknowledge MD and DO; they didn't even like DO until now (This reflects my family anyway.).
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Let the misery and stereotyping begin. (As you can tell, I have low self esteem).... 🙁
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native american or eastern indian? or cleveland
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You are like the densest person ever dude
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Yeah..ask them why everyone in the hospital thinks they are idiots (trying not to stereotype)
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Just wanted to pitch in my 2 cents...
I am not of Asian decent but I do come from a very strict family where it is the norm to do exactly what your parents and your family tell you to do and what to be. However, you have to realize that YOU have to live YOUR life... YOU will have to deal with all the crap that happens everyday at work and YOU have to face the consequences of your decisions until the day YOU die. What I am trying to say is that your parents, your elders, and your family will one day move on to a better place, but YOU will be stuck with your life.
I know that ignoring your families' opinions is easier said than done, but you are at the point in your life (about to enter college) where you are your own person and you make your own decisions.
About your cousin saying that pharmacy is ****... just think about this: you become a DO; then you are "less" than an MD; if you become an MD; then you are "less" than the Harvard Med School MD; etc, etc, etc... I think you get my the point.
In this world there will always be someone "better" than you at something or at least people that think they are... just do what you think will make you happy, do it to the best of your ability and forget the critics and the ill-informed regardless of who or what they are. Live YOUR life, remember you only get one chance.
BTW, I wanted to congratulate you on your PharmD acceptance and wish you the best of luck as you embark on your journey.🙂
P.S: The DO < MD comment does not reflect my beliefs, I am just stating what I feel people like his cousin think.
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whats wrong with saying native americas? enlighten me..and i was just wondering so chill out. and jew, im not dense-especially since we may be classmates this fall, try not to judge my personality or any sepcific characcter traight based on an internet forum.
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Yeah, pretty much... there is so much crap that we all have to deal with in life that at least some of it should be by your own doing and at least make you happy...
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How true. Although if he's Hindu then he gets many chances...
Darklord, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're in a traditional Indian family then social stratification plays a big role in your family's social beliefs, right? Higher castes, lower castes, and what-not? Is that part of the pressure you're feeling?
You could tell them you are starting as a Pharmacist but then will be reincarnated as a DO and then an MD after that. Eventually you may be reincarnated as an MD/PhD, but at least you are not an untouchable DPM!
Will that make your family ease up on you?
I joke, but I still think you should just go to (plain old) college and not try to beat everyone to the hypothetical finish line. But that's just me, and no one has ever accused me of being a workaholic.
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Oh yes sir! Indian families especially the ones who migrated here few yrs or decades back still stuck to their former culture and way of thinking.
My uncle mocks americal education system by giving his daughter's example. so his daughter attends a med school in NY. she did her undergrad in arts at a private catholic univ with a year study abroad in france to learn art (easily 100K loan for undergrad) then went to med school thats another (100-150K loan) . So he says whats the whole point of wasting 4 yrs of life and $100K loan in studying something she will probably never use ,when all she wanted to be was a doctor. $100k spending for arts degree and a year in france appears senseless to him. bcoz from the culture he comes, there is no financial aid and loans are a big tabooo. u will never find traditional indians stuck in credit card loans or foreclosure coz many of them have zero concept of credit.
well anyways so he convinced my family and they pressurized me and finally when i was accepted to scholl i was in my 3rd yr at Marquette univ. my dad said $40k extra loan on your head for what purpose. you will never use that education and even if u ever need it then go to library and read it
. well it wasnt really a loan coz my dad paid my undergrad tuition and he threatened to cut it off. and i had to take financial aid. so it was a tough spot for me 🙂finally i left undergrad after 3rd yr and joined scholl. i did got my BS frm Scholl. my family thinks they saved me $40K. i dont know if it was a good decision or not. i cud have enjoyed that last yr. who knows. sometimes i regret it and sometimes i feel good abt it also. im $40k less in loan. i will be done a year early.🙂
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I dont know about your family. but my parents are very impressed by podiatry. we are in healthcare business and probably thats why they know more about podiatrist then other indians but in my personal opinion as long as you show your family the average salary survey and convince them that you will be making a lot more than "raju uncle's daughter's husband's sister's son's niece"
they will be very very happy. Pharm D, DO, DPM, MD who cares bro! financial stability is what most desi parents look. Pharmacy is an awesome career. my cousin graduated from midwestern and got a job offer for $105K with bonus in cleveland😀 .Thanks Cool_VKB I was actually waiting for your post.
The problem is I think the salary of a pharmacist is actually quite low; plus, I don't like their scope of practice. I mean a PA has a better scope of practice, a slightly lower salary, but their respect is way low (in the Indian community). PA school also 1/2 of pharmacy school. This is just an example. Also, high school teachers can make up to 100,000 as well (I know for sure in California).
Until I find some awesome niche in pharmacy that I really like, I will continue to research other health professions. My parents are telling my not to give up and still pursue DO, but I told them I don't want to wind up in some crappy DO school and then wind up in a crappy residency in IM or FP in the middle of nowhere.
I totally agree with the idea of getting into SOME health profession where you are happy and have financial security. Heck I even know some veterinarians doing extremely well. If that's what you like , then awesome. As of know, I still haven't found an area in pharmacy where I see myself practicing. But podiatry seems more and more appealing every day.
Thank you atonox146 for your post. It is very true. No matter what field or sub-field you are in there will always be someone with more education, someone with a higher income than you, or someone who is your boss, whatever. It is kind of like the Dalai Lama's philosophy, of being happy with where you are.
NatCh's post was quite funny; I laughed as I read it. Unfortunately, he makes too many assumptions; however, some parts of it are true. I believe I have been conditioned also to evaluate people based on their education. Like I will subconsciously think the guy with a bachelors is better than I guy with no education. The guy with a professional degree is better than a guy with a PhD, ect.
Anyway, I have to head off to class now.
Thanks for your help guys.
Later.
The problem is I think the salary of a pharmacist is actually quite low; plus, I don't like their scope of practice. I mean a PA has a better scope of practice, a slightly lower salary, but their respect is way low (in the Indian community). PA school also 1/2 of pharmacy school. This is just an example. Also, high school teachers can make up to 100,000 as well (I know for sure in California).
Until I find some awesome niche in pharmacy that I really like, I will continue to research other health professions. My parents are telling my not to give up and still pursue DO, but I told them I don't want to wind up in some crappy DO school and then wind up in a crappy residency in IM or FP in the middle of nowhere.
I totally agree with the idea of getting into SOME health profession where you are happy and have financial security. Heck I even know some veterinarians doing extremely well. If that's what you like , then awesome. As of know, I still haven't found an area in pharmacy where I see myself practicing. But podiatry seems more and more appealing every day.
Thank you atonox146 for your post. It is very true. No matter what field or sub-field you are in there will always be someone with more education, someone with a higher income than you, or someone who is your boss, whatever. It is kind of like the Dalai Lama's philosophy, of being happy with where you are.
NatCh's post was quite funny; I laughed as I read it. Unfortunately, he makes too many assumptions; however, some parts of it are true. I believe I have been conditioned also to evaluate people based on their education. Like I will subconsciously think the guy with a bachelors is better than I guy with no education. The guy with a professional degree is better than a guy with a PhD, ect.
Anyway, I have to head off to class now.
Thanks for your help guys.
Later.
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that's a shame.
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Boss you really gotta do some research on this subject. your knowledge is really very limited. There is no such thing as a crappy school or crappy residency. At the end of the day you will graduate from a LCME accredited US medical school (yeah yeah osteopathic but its not that big different). And that crappy residency will give you a stable career with a good income. Plus who said that DOs can do just FP or IM. they can participate in AGCME residencies and can pursue a career in many specialities.
And regarding pharmacist. i dont know why its a low salary. you are investing just 6 yrs of your life (compared to 4yrs + 4yrs + 3yrs in med school). How can you complain $80K-$120K salary is low. There is a big shortage of pharmacists in this country and believe me you will do excellent.
Plus after pharmacy school you can go to medical school or whatever you want. Just work few hours in weekend while in med school and viola you will make easily $40-70/hr .
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you don't even have your high school diploma. what are we supposed to think of you?
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however, some parts of it are true. I believe I have been conditioned also to evaluate people based on their education. Like I will subconsciously think the guy with a bachelors is better than I guy with no education. The guy with a professional degree is better than a guy with a PhD, ect.
lol
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Yeah, sorry about the assumptions. Mostly I just felt like riffing for the sake of humor.
Sorry for not replying, I was touring the university where I will be spending the next 2-3 years of my life.
Anyway, Cool_vkb, my dad has been encouraging me to not give up on medicine just because of the 1st rejection. And you are right, if one works hard even in osteopathic school he/she can get into a good residency of his/her own choice. I found it encouraging to read the DO match threads. 👍
Anyway, for airbud's remark. I consider myself a pharmacy student for all practical purposes. I have a seat reserved for me in a big-state university-pharmacy school. I find it cool to think that in 2-3 years, I'll be able to sign my name Pharm.D Candidate. 😀
Anyway, Cool_vkb, my dad has been encouraging me to not give up on medicine just because of the 1st rejection. And you are right, if one works hard even in osteopathic school he/she can get into a good residency of his/her own choice. I found it encouraging to read the DO match threads. 👍
Anyway, for airbud's remark. I consider myself a pharmacy student for all practical purposes. I have a seat reserved for me in a big-state university-pharmacy school. I find it cool to think that in 2-3 years, I'll be able to sign my name Pharm.D Candidate. 😀