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.no point.
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Too many radiologists?
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I don't get why everyone is giving him so much flack. The job market is bad. The only job market that is worse is pathology. The sooner people accept that, notably our governing bodies, the sooner we can correct it. Imaging growth is stagnating and we need to make the appropriate correction in the workforce.
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Do you ever read radiology forums? It's a perpetual whine fest from ***** residents who don't have the balls to change their specialty. They're unhappy but don't want to do anything about it. Pathetic.
I am as anonymous as he is and other posters.
However, as a radiologist in pp and in a competitive market, I tell you that this statement is not correct. The market is bad in big cities, but not as bad as people say.
I spent most of my medical training in the same place and know friends in different fields.
Primary care, General IM, Peds, OB and certain other fields have still good job markets. But this is not the case for many other fields.
Anyway, still there are decent jobs within 2-3 hours drive of big cities.
I finished my training after the market crashed. Almost all residents and fellows with me and after me have good jobs. The only one I know without a job was a girl in my class that wants a part time job without call in big city and no IR work. She is not working now, but she is married to a rich businessman. So to me she choose not to work. Whenever you see her, she is complaining about bad market. She is right, because when she chose radiology people could find part time job in big cities without call. IT IS ALL ABOUT EXPECTATIONS.
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This is true. I wonder why you don't see this kind of stuff on any of the surgery forums. I wonder what demographic that would attempt such false-flagging is drawn to radiology...
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The nancy boy hyper intellectual inferiority complex demographic if I had to guess.
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http://www.acr.org/~/media/ACR/Docu...ssion on Human Resources Workforce Survey.pdf
Read the article! Its extrapolated data. No evidence that 1400 were hired in 2012.
Read the article! Its extrapolated data. No evidence that 1400 were hired in 2012.
It is one of auntminnie's articles under the name: "JACR: Jobs are out there, but they may not be perfect".
You can find it under the section "How many jobs". I copy paste the first few lines:
..... the 2013 results showed that 1,407 radiologists were hired last year, with general interventional radiologists forming the largest group (15.1%).
Bluth's team estimated that 1,526 jobs will be available in 2013 and 1,434 in 2016.
Their prediction for 2012 was around 1100, but became 1400. Now for 2014 they predict 1400. It may be 1200 or 1600. But should not be very off.
Not all of these jobs are good. A lot of them are not considered desirable. But I can not believe that there is a large group of unemployed radiologists out there.
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You are obviously not looking for a job. When groups want only msk they are limiting the pool to only around 200 per year and some groups want two fellowships. How big is that pool? (See the job just posted in the bay area on ACR- neuro and peds fellowships plus expereience desired)
Unless the Affordable Care Act works out and pumps up demand rads looking for jobs are screwed.
Yep, but then for an MSK job you are not competing with 1200 radiologists. You are competing with about 200 other fellows.
Some jobs want two fellowships, no argument. And some fellowships definitely have edge over some others in job hunt. I personally don't believe in ACR job bulletin, since most of jobs esp the good ones are not advertised.
If a group can hire a radiologist easily, because of bad job market, why do they need to advertise for the job in ACR job posting? In my experience, most of good jobs never get advertised. In our 6 new radiologists in the last 4 years including me, none of them were advertised.
There were 1400 jobs last year. I bet most of them went to people with one fellowship and most of them also were in big cities or within 50-60 mile of big cities.