Residency Match

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As per CASPR, there were 433 applicants contending for 417 positions at 199 podiatric residency programs nationwide for the 2008 CASPR application cycle. 76% of the applicants were successfully matched to 78% of the CASPR available residency positions.
 
Just found out today that I matched with Penn-Presby. Philly here I come!
 
Congratulations!!!
 
dpmgrad said:
As per CASPR, there were 433 applicants contending for 417 positions at 199 podiatric residency programs nationwide for the 2008 CASPR application cycle. 76% of the applicants were successfully matched to 78% of the CASPR available residency positions.
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417 Postions??? Last I heard, there were over 500 positions. Did the residency transition get rid of that many spots?
 
dpmgrad said:
As per CASPR, there were 433 applicants contending for 417 positions at 199 podiatric residency programs nationwide for the 2008 CASPR application cycle. 76% of the applicants were successfully matched to 78% of the CASPR available residency positions.
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does this mean that 16 people didn't get accepted to any residency??
 
jonwill said:
417 Postions??? Last I heard, there were over 500 positions. Did the residency transition get rid of that many spots?
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The shortage of positions was announced to the residency directors during CRIP. Due to closure of some of the hospitals and losing spots during the residency transition through out the 2008 CASPR cycle, it ended up less positions than number of applicants at the end of the cycle. However, during the start of the 2008 CASPR cycle, there were more positions than applicants.

This should be an interesting scramble. Lastly, there are some good programs in the scramble this year.
 
Huskies213 said:
does this mean that 16 people didn't get accepted to any residency??
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Not necessarily. There are programs that are not participating in the CASPR match this year since they were created so late in the application process or simply missed the deadlines. It is possible that the all of the students may get into a program at the end.
 
Hypothetically, if one applies to say the ten most applied to programs for the match and are not accepted to any, are you then put basically in the scramble position trying to find the unmatched positions? Is match process similar to say college searching in that you apply to reach and safety programs?
 
dpmgrad said:
The shortage of positions was announced to the residency directors during CRIP. Due to closure of some of the hospitals and losing spots during the residency transition through out the 2008 CASPR cycle, it ended up less positions than number of applicants at the end of the cycle. However, during the start of the 2008 CASPR cycle, there were more positions than applicants.

This should be an interesting scramble. Lastly, there are some good programs in the scramble this year.
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Congrats to all, esp my fellow Schollie, PharmD/DPMP!

http://casprcrip.org/html/casprcrip/pdf/2008UnfilledPositions.pdf

Some great programs on the list. Good luck to the scramble. 8 positions open at one residency....wow...
 
HenryH said:
I thought that, starting in 2008, all residency programs had to extend to 36-month programs? Some of the programs on that list last for only 24.
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...politics....it ruins everything
 
HenryH said:
I thought that, starting in 2008, all residency programs had to extend to 36-month programs? Some of the programs on that list last for only 24.
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Where did you hear this info? The past residency programs (surgical, non surgical, etc) were/are being changed to "Podiatric Medicine and Surgery" PM and S residencies. Residencies used to range from 1 to 4 years in length and could get pretty confusing (ie Alphabet soup). Anywho, the new format means that all recent and future pod grads will at least have some amount of surgical training. The model programs are 24 or 36 months. 24 month programs will allow you to sit for the forefoot boards while 36 month programs will allow you to sit for the forefoot, rearfoot and ankle boards. There are a few (less than 4 I believe) four year residencies left, but I understand they are put under "PM and S-36" programs. An example would be at Penn-Presby or Temple University.

I heard the overall goal is to make all the residencies a minimum of 3 years in length (comparable to the minimum amount of time for a MD/DO residency - family practice, gen internal medicine, etc). However, this is definitely not in effect yet, I can guarantee you that.
 
Hello all...a quick question...
how, as a student, can you best secure a residency spot?? are they all merit based? i mean, what are your suggestions for those of us starting school this fall...
 
Securing a spot is no easy task. I would suggest just be yourself. There's no formula or equation. Be hard-working and easy to work with!!! That's my biggest advice. Don't be or cause problems. Always and always try to help out during your rotations/externships. Remember these may be your attendings/co-residents next year. Also, treat everyone (eg. pt's, medical staff) like they were your mother (my advice), utmost respect. I'm not saying to bow down to everyone, but be a nice guy/girl. Grades/class ranking will get you so far, but how you act and present yourself on rotations may get your remembered. Best of luck to you students.


P.S.- For everyone out there, I did not have a spot secured before today for residency. Like I said, I tried and hoped for the best and good things do happen to people that work hard.
 
dpmgrad said:
The shortage of positions was announced to the residency directors during CRIP. Due to closure of some of the hospitals and losing spots during the residency transition through out the 2008 CASPR cycle, it ended up less positions than number of applicants at the end of the cycle. However, during the start of the 2008 CASPR cycle, there were more positions than applicants.

This should be an interesting scramble. Lastly, there are some good programs in the scramble this year.
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Well at least they let the RDs know.

Good thing we have certain people in high places at the pod schools in Iowa sitting on the Board helping to close local residency programs down.
 
PharmD/DPM said:
Securing a spot is no easy task. I would suggest just be yourself. There's no formula or equation. Be hard-working and easy to work with!!! That's my biggest advice. Don't be or cause problems. Always and always try to help out during your rotations/externships. Remember these may be your attendings/co-residents next year. Also, treat everyone (eg. pt's, medical staff) like they were your mother (my advice), utmost respect. I'm not saying to bow down to everyone, but be a nice guy/girl. Grades/class ranking will get you so far, but how you act and present yourself on rotations may get your remembered. Best of luck to you students.


P.S.- For everyone out there, I did not have a spot secured before today for residency. Like I said, I tried and hoped for the best and good things do happen to people that work hard.
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Thanks for the good advice
 
dpmgrad said:
...This should be an interesting scramble. Lastly, there are some good programs in the scramble this year.
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You really think so? I didn't have that impression at all.

All I really saw that stuck out was Grant, Orlando, Inova, Scripps, CCF, StVin Charity, and Scranton... that's less than 10 real high quality spots for over 100 unmatched students. I guess that, depending on what the graduate was looking for, you could add in Kern, Jackson-South, a few Chicago ones, and other programs known to get the numbers.

Maybe it was just because of the rare surplus of good programs we saw left over last year (2007), but yesterday's 08 overflow list looked like bare bones to me. It will probably scare me into ranking 10+ programs after I interview next year.
 
PharmD/DPM said:
Securing a spot is no easy task. I would suggest just be yourself. There's no formula or equation. Be hard-working and easy to work with!!! That's my biggest advice. Don't be or cause problems. Always and always try to help out during your rotations/externships. Remember these may be your attendings/co-residents next year. Also, treat everyone (eg. pt's, medical staff) like they were your mother (my advice), utmost respect. I'm not saying to bow down to everyone, but be a nice guy/girl. Grades/class ranking will get you so far, but how you act and present yourself on rotations may get your remembered. Best of luck to you students.

P.S.- For everyone out there, I did not have a spot secured before today for residency. Like I said, I tried and hoped for the best and good things do happen to people that work hard.
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👍

Good advice... and congrats on securing a top program.
 
Well I am officially a Detroit Medical Center resident! Can't wait to get started. Sleep is overrated anyway.
 
congratulations gusty!

Would you and any other students who matched, mind posting your ranking lists? Or is that too personal? I would love to see the lists.
 
PharmD/DPM said:
Securing a spot is no easy task. I would suggest just be yourself. There's no formula or equation. Be hard-working and easy to work with!!! That's my biggest advice. Don't be or cause problems. Always and always try to help out during your rotations/externships. Remember these may be your attendings/co-residents next year. Also, treat everyone (eg. pt's, medical staff) like they were your mother (my advice), utmost respect. I'm not saying to bow down to everyone, but be a nice guy/girl. Grades/class ranking will get you so far, but how you act and present yourself on rotations may get your remembered. Best of luck to you students.


P.S.- For everyone out there, I did not have a spot secured before today for residency. Like I said, I tried and hoped for the best and good things do happen to people that work hard.
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Thanks for the honest advice 🙂

and congrats to those that know where they're going 🙂 it must be pretty exciting to know that your hard work has paid off 👍
 
Feli said:
You really think so? I didn't have that impression at all.

All I really saw that stuck out was Grant, Orlando, Inova, Scripps, CCF, StVin Charity, and Scranton... that's less than 10 real high quality spots for over 100 unmatched students. I guess that, depending on what the graduate was looking for, you could add in Kern, Jackson-South, a few Chicago ones, and other programs known to get the numbers.

Maybe it was just because of the rare surplus of good programs we saw left over last year (2007), but yesterday's 08 overflow list looked like bare bones to me. It will probably scare me into ranking 10+ programs after I interview next year.
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I was really suprised that Orlando went unmatched for one spot when they only take 2???

I was suprised for us as well. I though for sure this year we would match all 4 spots. oh well.
 
crhoody12 said:
Hypothetically, if one applies to say the ten most applied to programs for the match and are not accepted to any, are you then put basically in the scramble position trying to find the unmatched positions? Is match process similar to say college searching in that you apply to reach and safety programs?
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The reason it is not similar to college is that after you rank the programs and submit the list the choice is no longer yours. Once the match comes out that is the final word. Unless you scramble.

When you apply to college many may accept you but you have the ultimate decision of which college to go to. For residency you choose the order that you want to rank them, they choose the order to rank students and then there is a match process.

I would certainly interview with many programs reach, realistic, and safety. But only match programs that you would want to go to. You can not change your mind after you match.
 
krabmas said:
I was really suprised that Orlando went unmatched for one spot when they only take 2???

I was suprised for us as well. I though for sure this year we would match all 4 spots. oh well.
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Yes, I didn't know a whole lot about Orlando until recently, but many Barry students seem to really like it. I guess they must not have ranked very many students. I was very impressed with the FEO residents, attendings, and posters at the ACFAS meeting last month.

...Is your Inova program going to scramble or just leave the one spot unfilled? A student who externed there last year told me Fairfax was pondering going to a "clerkship mandatory for consideration" policy...?
 
Feli said:
Yes, I didn't know a whole lot about Orlando until recently, but many Barry students seem to really like it. I guess they must not have ranked very many students. I was very impressed with the FEO residents, attendings, and posters at the ACFAS meeting last month.

...Is your Inova program going to scramble or just leave the one spot unfilled? A student who externed there last year told me Fairfax was pondering going to a "clerkship mandatory for consideration" policy...?
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They require at least a 3 day visit before they will interview. But for the scramble they will interview without the visit.

There is too much work and all the rotations are set up for 4 residents per year. So we will scramble.
 
krabmas said:
They require at least a 3 day visit before they will interview. But for the scramble they will interview without the visit.
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If places like this require a 3 day visit before the interview (assume other schools do as well), is this something you have to do on your own time and how to people figure it into their schedule? I ask this because if you plan on applying to say 10 programs but only have 4-5 extern programs to check-out residencies, how do you do it all? Just seems overwhelming but then again, I'm not even in school yet and it's a long way away.
 
crhoody12 said:
If places like this require a 3 day visit before the interview (assume other schools do as well), is this something you have to do on your own time and how to people figure it into their schedule? I ask this because if you plan on applying to say 10 programs but only have 4-5 extern programs to check-out residencies, how do you do it all? Just seems overwhelming but then again, I'm not even in school yet and it's a long way away.
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Each school allows for vacation time. Some give it in weeks at the end of the month for 5 week months you work the first 4 weeks then the last week is off. Some schools give 1 month at a time. Use this time for visiting programs.

Externships are usually understanding of giving you a few days off to visit programs in the same area.

It shows a program that you are really interested if you visit.

I interviewed at about 6-8 programs ( I think - don't remember anymore). I only ranked 5 or 6. I visited all but 2 of the programs that I interviewed at. It is doable. it depends what your priorities are and how ambitious you are.
 
Feli said:
You really think so? I didn't have that impression at all.

All I really saw that stuck out was Grant, Orlando, Inova, Scripps, CCF, StVin Charity, and Scranton... that's less than 10 real high quality spots for over 100 unmatched students. I guess that, depending on what the graduate was looking for, you could add in Kern, Jackson-South, a few Chicago ones, and other programs known to get the numbers.

Maybe it was just because of the rare surplus of good programs we saw left over last year (2007), but yesterday's 08 overflow list looked like bare bones to me. It will probably scare me into ranking 10+ programs after I interview next year.
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I think that I may be coming from a different perspective. When I was applying for residency, one would rarely see any of the top or big name programs in the scramble. Since I see a handful of good programs (which you already listed) in the scramble this year, I was just commenting that there are some good programs in the scramble this year.
 
Congrats to Gustydoc, DMC is definitely a top tier program in the midwest. I haven't been their, but some of my fellow Schollie's have and have said that it's really great!

Any other 4th years out there that matched? Certainly gusty and myself are not the only ones that read this forum?
 
biocmp said:
congratulations gusty!

Would you and any other students who matched, mind posting your ranking lists? Or is that too personal? I would love to see the lists.
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I know we have a couple students at DMU who did end up scrambling so once they have place locked down I'll try to fill you in on where we are sending all our students. I do know that there will be 3 DMUers headed to West Penn next year. We also have students going to INOVA, Grant and some of the other top programs (besides DMC😀). There are two of my other classmates headed to DMC with me as well. Pretty exciting stuff, it's nice to see 4 years of hard work paying off for everybody.
 
krabmas said:
Did you really miss jonwill that much?
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Well you know us student body Presidents have to stick together. 👍 By the way did anyone else see that Broadlawns has a open position listing for a second year resident? I thought that program was closed completely, but I guess they may still take a second yr resident who is looking to change programs. I just thought it was interesting. I would think that if someone did head there for the last 2yrs of their residency they would be very busy and get some pretty great #s.
 
jonwill said:
That's what I was thinking. Where did everyone match???
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I think that a lot of the 08 Barry grads matched in southern programs: Tex programs, GA, Fla... I would guess that the vast majority matched Florida, programs. That is a year after year trend; once you get a taste of the weather and scope down here, it really grows on ya...

I heard that some Barry students matched with Pitt and other northern programs also. It's good to see I'm not the only Barry student crazy enough to think about leaving the palm trees and bikini beaches... you can always come back after residency 😀
 
gustydoc said:
Well you know us student body Presidents have to stick together. 👍 By the way did anyone else see that Broadlawns has a open position listing for a second year resident? I thought that program was closed completely, but I guess they may still take a second yr resident who is looking to change programs. I just thought it was interesting. I would think that if someone did head there for the last 2yrs of their residency they would be very busy and get some pretty great #s.
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Yeah, The attendings at the Lawns were with us when we pulled that up. We all had a good laugh.
 
With only 417 positions, I am guessing a lot (I mean a LOT) of people wont get a residency spot in 2011 then??????
 
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